Timing matters more than length here. A consult right when they sit down hits different than one you do after they've already got a wet head and somewhere to be.

Why do people treat investing like it's some kind of lottery when the same thing plays out everywhere else too? Getting in shape, learning a language, building a business, it's never one big move, it's the same small thing done over and over while everyone else quits because it's boring. Your $400 a payday is the whole secret and nobody wants to hear it.

Kept a jump pack in my wife's car for two winters straight and never touched it once. Then my brother in law borrowed it for his boat and I forgot about the whole thing until my car died at a gas pump. Had to beg some dude in a Tacoma for a jump while my $80 pack sat in a garage across town. Point is you can carry all the gear you want but if you don't actually check it or keep it where you need it, it's just junk taking up space. The second battery works because you wired it in and see it every time you pop the hood.